# [Tex/LaTex] Ugly \usepackage{times} examples

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I looked at the LaTeX template for a scientific journal and found that they are using the discouraged

\usepackage{times}


See, for example l2tabuen where it says

times.sty is obsolete (see psnfss2e [10]). It does set \rmdefault to Times, \sfdefault to
Helvetica, and \ttdefault to Courier. But it does not use the corresponding mathematical
fonts. What's more, Helvetica is not scaled correctly which makes it appear too big in comparison. So if you want to use the combination Times/Helvetica/Courier you should use:

Replace:

\usepackage{times}


by

\usepackage{mathptmx}
\usepackage[scaled=.90]{helvet}
\usepackage{courier}


What are examples of where the ugliness of times is highly visible?

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
\usepackage{times}
\DeclareMathAlphabet{\MATHIT}{OT1}{ptm}{m}{it}%% similiar to mathptmx
\DeclareSymbolFont{Letters}{OML}{ztmcm}{m}{it}%% dito
\DeclareSymbolFontAlphabet{\mathNormal}{Letters}% dito

\begin{document}
Setting it with package \textit{times}:\\
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvw rmdefault\\\itshape
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvw itshape\\$abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvw$ mathnormal\\$\mathit{% abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvw}$ mathit

\normalfont
Setting it with package \textit{mathptmx}:\\
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvw rmdefault\\\itshape
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvw itshape\\$\mathNormal{% abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvw}$ mathnormal\\$\MATHIT{% abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvw}$ mathit
\end{document}