[Physics] Springs, elastic potential energy, kinetic energy

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If a ball with some kinetic energy collides with a spring, the ball doesn't lose its kinetic energy in an instant, right? it loses kinetic energy as the spring gains potential elastic energy. Right?

So now I'm wondering. If I have a spring on the ground, and If I let the block falls from some meteres to collide with the spring on the ground. How can I calculate the maximum compression of the spring ?

I was thinking like this: The block has an Initial potential energy, that it's going to convert to kinetic energy, and at the time that the block collides with the spring the whole kinetic energy would transfer to the spring, so I could calculate all about the spring doing this:

say X is the initial potential energy of the BLOCK. Total Energy= Kinetic energy of the spring + Elastic Potential energy of the spring (=) X= Kinetic energy of the spring + Elastic Potential energy of the spring

But now I'm wondering if it wouldn't be more accurate to say that X= Kinetic energy of the spring + Elastic Potential energy of the spring – Kinetic energy of the ball !!

What do you think?

Best Answer

The way I understand the setup: The block is initially at rest at some height above the spring. The spring is initially at rest oriented vertically with one end on the ground and at it's natural length (though if its not a massless spring it would compress somewhat due to its own weight). Then, the block is dropped, it lands on the spring compressing it and at some time the maximum compression is reached.

At maximum compression the block is momentarily stationary (between moving down and back up again) and the spring should be stationary as well (though I expect there would be some vibrations). My point is initially and at maximum compression there is no kinetic energy. Overall the initial gravitational energy is converted to elastic potential energy.

With a massive spring it becomes a bit more involved. The spring will compress to some extent under its on weight and as it is compressed its centre of mass will move down reducing its gravitational potential energy.