[Physics] How to an object with zero potential and kinetic energy ever move

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I am not sure how to ask this question but I am learning about potential energy in my high school physics class. From the definition of potential energy, (energy stored in an object with the potential to convert into other type of energy), I don't understand how an object (let's say a ball) on the ground, which has zero kinetic energy and zero potential energy, can fall off a cliff and gain kinetic energy when it had no potential energy. How can it now be gaining energy? Also, another question that was already discussed in SE (but I didn't find my answer there), is why do we talk about the potential energy of a system (ball+Earth) but kinetic energy of an object (ball)?

Thanks.

Best Answer

Where we define the potential energy to be $0$ in classical mechanics is arbitrary. All that matters is the change in potential energy. Since you are just learning this stuff I will assume you are in an algebra based physics class, so I will avoid using calculus here.

Potential energies are nice because they tell us how much work is done by a conservative force. More specifically, the work done by a conservative force is given by $$W_{cons}=-\Delta U$$ where $U$ is the potential energy associated with that conservative force. This is useful because we also know that the net work done on an object determines its change in kinetic energy $$W_{net}=\Delta K$$

So, if we consider your case where we just have one conservative force acting on the object, we can conclude that $$\Delta K=-\Delta U$$

And so we see here that the only thing that determines how the motion of our object changes is just the change in potential energy. If we define the zero-point to be at the top of the cliff, then as the object falls its kinetic energy will grow and its potential energy will decrease and be negative when it hits the bottom of the cliff. If we define the zero-point to be at the bottom of the cliff then as the object falls its kinetic energy will grow and its potential energy will decrease to $0$ when it hits the bottom of the cliff. In either case the same thing happens because we have the same change in potential energy.

Also another question that was already discussed in SE (but i didn't find my answer there) is why do we talk about the potential energy of a system (ball+Earth) but kinetic energy of an object (ball)?

Typically in introductory physics classes we just consider the ball being in a uniform gravitational field and we don't even consider the Earth. However if you want to include the Earth in your system then when the ball falls the Earth will actually move slightly upwards to meet the ball. It will still be the case though that the work done by gravity on each object is related to the change in the potential energy of each object, which results in a change of kinetic energy.