[Physics] Why don’t photons attract

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I was reading in Griffiths, Quantum mechanics 2nd Edition about the Exchange forces, so it says that identical bosons attract each other, like the case of Einstein Bose condensates, identical fermions repel, and when we incorporate the spin to the wave function it can have the opposite effect.

So I have been thinking, what about photons, they just disperse, not attract nor repel because they don't have electrical charge, while gluons which have color charge tend to form loops. My main question is why don't they affect other photons (unless colliding), shouldn't there be an attraction or repulsion by the exchange force? Or is it because I would need a QFT treatment in that case?

Also I was wondering something related. The book says that exchange force is not a real force but a geometric consequence, what is the difference, and in the case of electrons, they repel each other because of their electric charge, is there any link of charges to exchange forces. If any argument is incorrect I would be grateful if you correct me.

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My main question is why don't they affect other photons (unless colliding), shouldn't there be an attraction or repulsion by the exchange force? Or is it because I would need a QFT treatment in that case?

Photons are quantum mechanical entities, so yes, it is a QFT case. Any interaction between two photons goes through exchange diagrams. Two photon interactions occur, with very low probability because the diagrams are box diagrams with at least four 1/137 couplings depressing the probability . For light frequencies this is a very small number . This probability grows with energy so even gamma gamma colliders are envisaged.