[Physics] When is tension positive

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A 5kg mass is hanging from the roof of an elevator accelerating downward at a speed of 1.65 m/s^2 what is the tension of the string (ignore friction, string mass, and air resistance) ?
I used this formula to solve the problem $$-T-mg = -ma$$
In this problem, i feel that the tension should be negative since the mass is trying to maintain its constant speed due to inertia and elevator is heading downward an its pulling the string with it. But for some reason tension in this case is positive. While if the same object was hanging from the same string but instead of the elevator, we have a person rotating it vertically with a centripetal acceleration of 1.62 m/s^2, the tension of the string when the object is all the way at the top will be negative.
I don't understand why these two almost identical situations end up with a different sign for the tension

Best Answer

Thank you for writing out the equation. Please note that the tension in the string can't be negative, because a string can't support negative tension (compression). It's the same as trying to push a wet noodle.

There are two ways of writing the force balance, depending on whether the upward direction is taken as positive or negative. Both ways give the exact same result for the tension.

Method 1: Upward direction is positive. Here, $$T-mg=ma$$where a is the upward acceleration of the mass. Since the acceleration of the mass is the same as the elevator, here, a = -1.65. So, $T=m(g-1.65)$

Method 2: Downward direction is positive. Here, $$mg-T=ma$$where a is the downward acceleration of the mass. Since the acceleration of the mass is the same as the elevator, here, a = + 1.65. So, $T=m(g-1.65)$

Either way you get the same answer.