[Physics] Vacuum pressure equivalent in a siphon hose filled with water

fluid dynamicspressurethermodynamicsvacuum

So, I was thinking about how siphons worked today, and no matter how high or low the tube goes, as long as the end is lower than the start, water will flow. So, if you took a hose, ran it up 50 feet, and then back down to the ground, it would seem like water would flow through that.

However, when I performed some calculations, it looked like after going up for ~33 feet (equivalent of 1 atmosphere when you go down), the hose would be at a complete vacuum pressure.

This would mean that the water would boil off, like in space. Alternatively, when you go up more than 33 feet, would you be at negative pressure relative to vacuum? This intuitively and mathematically does not make sense.

So, how can we resolve this discrepancy?

Best Answer

Yeah, not really... You CAN have negative absolute pressure, just not in ideal gases. Other materials have cohesion and can sustain a metastable state under negative absolute pressures.

See for instance the 2016 PLOS One paper where they show a water siphon working at 15m: Negative Pressures and the First Water Siphon Taller than 10.33 Meters or http://dx.doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0153055

Or the 1902 short article on Science (unfortunatelly behind a paywall) where they show a Hg siphon working at 70cm (local atmosferic pressure 61cmHg): ON THE SIPHON http://dx.doi.org/10.1126/science.15.369.152