[Physics] Newton’s third law and punching a glass or a feather

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According to Newton's third law, action force equals reaction force in terms of magnitude.

When I punch a glass, the glass punches me back. If I exert a greater force on the glass, it will break.

Suppose a glass could sustain 100N force and that my muscles can exert up to 200N force: if I went all out, I couldn't punch the glass with a 200N force because the glass would break, which means it's not able to apply a 200N force on me. I apply F = 200N and the reaction is only f = 100N.

Now suppose I punch a feather in a vacuum, can you explain this?: does it matter if someone is holding the feather for you to punch or it's free?

Best Answer

You will be punching the feather with a really small force. That doesn't mean your arm is punching lightly. Your arm can have a lot of momentum and internal tension due to internal forces that makes you punch hard, but the actual force is defined on the interaction with another object, in this case: the feather, so the force you apply to the feather is pretty small compared with the maximum force your arm would be capable of doing.

Update: In a comment Jim says:

Unless the collision is elastic, in which case the feather will experience the full force and accelerate to an enormous speed

This is incorrect (although it depends on the definition of "enormous"). Here I will show that the "enormous" speed that you can get for the feather is at most twice that of the arm. If you calculate the final speed for an elastic collision (which I'll leave as homework), you will obtain:

$$v_{feather}=\frac{2v_{arm}}{1+\mu}$$

where $\mu=\frac{m_{feather}}{m_{arm}}$

Thus, in the limit of a negligible feather mass, and in an elastic collision, the speed of the feather will be at most twice that of the arm. The speed will be still less if the collision is not elastic.

UPDATE: For those who find it difficult to get the equation.

From conservation of momentum: $m_{arm}v_{arm.ini}=m_{arm}v_{arm.final}+m_{feather}v_{feather}$

From conservation of energy: $.5m_{arm}v_{arm.ini}^2=.5m_{arm}v_{arm.final}^2+.5m_{feather}v_{feather}^2$

if you eliminate $v_{arm.final}$ you get $$v_{feather.initial}=\frac{2v_{arm}}{1+\mu}$$

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