[Physics] Magnification for a concave mirror

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Here is the question as given in my textbook:

Find the distance of the object from a concave mirror of focal length 10 cm so that the image size is 4 times the size of the object.

The solution in my textbook has the following data stated:

$u=-x$ as it is assumed that the object is real.

$v=-4x$ as it is assumed in case 1 that a real image will be formed and $|\frac{v}{u}|=|m|=4$

So now I am not able to understand why the image distance $v$ is taken $-4x$. In the question it is given that the object size is magnified 4 times, and not the distance of the of the object from the mirror.

And the magnification formula is $\frac{-v}{u}=m$, so why does the solution include the modulus of the formula?
Am I missing something in analysing the solution?

Best Answer

$u$ is the distance of the object to the reflecting/refracting surface. $v$ is the distance from that surface to the image.

by convention

  1. object and image: if both are real, both must have the same sign. if one is real and the other virtual, they must have different sign. for mirrors, both being on the same side of the mirror means they have the same property. for lenses, both being on the same side means they have different properties.
  2. concave mirrors have positive $f$ and convex mirrors have negative $f$.
  3. for magnification, positive values indicate that the image is the same orientation as the object (object upright, image also upright), negative if the image is inverted relative to the object. this use of sign is analogous to signs on vectors to indicate direction on an axis. if the magnification formula has a modulus on it, it means that the information regarding uprightness or inversion is deemed unimportant for the time being, or whatever other reasons.

knowing these rules is paramount to properly understanding optics problems as they are posed.

in this question the magnifcation is given as 4, whereas information on orientation is unknown.therefore the sign of $v$ is unknown (i am assuming there was no diagram that came along with the question). since u is assigned a negative value $-x$, then $v$ must also be a negative value if the image is real (now the information is given to you). this is interpreted as both object and image being on the same side of the mirror, on the x axis. proper use of the formula $m=\frac{-v}{u}$ will yield a negative value for m, indicating an inverted image relative to the object. in fact it is implicit from the rules above that for concave mirrors, real images are always inverted--an upright image must be a virtual image.

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