[Physics] How to you solve this “paradox”? Central potential

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A mass of point performs an effectively 1-dimensional motion in the radial coordinate. If we use the conservation of angular momentum, the centrifugal potential should be added to the original one.

The equation of motion can be obtained also from the Lagrangian. if we substitute, however, the conserved angular momentum herein then the centrifugal potential arises with the opposite sign. So if we naively apply the Euler-Lagrange equation then the centrifugal force appears with the wrong sign in the equations of motion.

I don't know how to resolve this "paradox".

Best Answer

The general issue is that you cannot plug your equations of motion into the Lagrangian and naively expect to get the same equations of motion back out again. Why not? Let us look at your specific example.

For the usual story we start with $$ L = \frac12 m (\dot r^2 + r^2\dot\theta^2) - V(r) . $$ We find that the angular momentum, defined by $\ell=m r^2\dot\theta$, is conserved so the equation of motion for the radial coordinate is $$ m \ddot r - \frac{\ell^2}{m r^3} + \frac{\partial V}{\partial r} = 0. $$

Now, you want to plug $\ell$ back into the Lagrangian. If we do that we have $$ L = \frac12 m \left( \dot r^2 + \frac{\ell^2}{m^2 r^2} \right) - V(r). $$ Naively, if we calculate the equation of motion from this Lagrangian that we will get the opposite sign for the $\ell^2/m r^3$ term. This is not correct!

Recall that when we call $\ell$ a conserved quantity we mean it is a constant in time, that is $\dot\ell=0$. Explicitly writing out the Euler-Lagrange equations we have $$ \frac{\mathrm{d}}{\mathrm{d}t}\left[ \left( \frac{\partial L}{\partial\dot r} \right)_{r,\theta,\dot\theta} \right] - \left( \frac{\partial L}{\partial r} \right)_{\dot r,\theta,\dot\theta} = 0.$$ Here I have included the reminder that when we take partial derivatives we mean that "everything else" is held constant and what that "everything else" is. For the problem at hand note that $$ \frac{\partial\ell}{\partial r} = \frac{2\ell}{r} \ne 0 $$ so it is not a general constant. Keeping this in mind, we do get the correct equation of motion (as we must).