[Physics] How to a full moon be seen south of an observer’s location

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I know this seems like a simple question, but I'm trying to debate with a flat earth theorist. I asked him to explain why can the ISS visibly be seen orbiting the Earth with the naked eye, and he put this question to me instead.

He asked:

"How can a full moon be observed south of an observer's location, despite the fact that if the moon is illuminated by the sun, an observer has to be almost directly between the sun and the moon to observe a full moon?"

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Here is a picture that may help in describing this.

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First row: Sun (red), Earth (blue) and Moon (black) to scale (axes - in km). You can see just how far away the sun is... and on this scale the Earth and Moon are essentially invisible (they are inside the "zoom box").

Second row: zooming in (50x), you can barely make out the Earth and Moon, Zooming in all the way to 300x, you can finally see just the Earth and the Moon - still to scale.

Now in order for the Moon to be in full sunlight, it needs to shift out of the direct line from the Sun to the Earth. The distance it has to shift to be in "full sunlight" is approximately the radius of the Earth plus the radius of the Moon: the actual shadow (umbra, where you get a total lunar eclipse) has a diameter of just 9000 km at the distance of the moon. This means that the Moon needs to be just 1.3° below the ecliptic to be out of the shadow (the ecliptic is the name of the plane containing the Sun and the Earth ... so called because when the Moon is on the ecliptic, you get an eclipse). The lunar orbit is in fact inclined by 5.145° relative to the ecliptic - so it spends most of its time away from the shadow of the earth. And that's why most of the time, we can see the full moon.

Bottom row: the difference between what a full moon looks like at 0°, 1°, and 5° "off perfect" illumination. As you can see, "full" looks pretty full for all of these - so a casual observation of the shape of the Moon along won't allow you to tell how far off the ecliptic it is. (The "flattening" is happening at the bottom of these plots - if you look closely, you can just see a few missing pixels on the right-most image).

And that is why you can see the full moon. And the earth is not flat.

You can find a nice animation (not to scale) on the earthsky.org site

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