Electromagnetism – Do Charge Carriers in a Current Carrying Wire Experience a Magnetic Force Due to the Net Magnetic Field They Create?

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I know this sounds like a bit of a stupid question and it low key is.

But I know that the magnetic force due to a current carrying wire of radius $R$ at a distance $r$ from the central axis of the wire is given by:
$$\vec{B}=\frac{\mu_0 i}{2\pi}\frac{r}{R^2}\hat{e_{\theta}}$$

When $r\leq R$.

Now I'm wondering if this magnetic field causes the charger carriers within the wire to experience a magnetic force due to this created magnetic field.

I know for an individual charge in a reference frame where the magnetic field due to that moving charge is present, it does not experience a force due to its own magnetic field. But since this magnetic field($\vec{B}=\frac{\mu_0 i}{2\pi}\frac{r}{R^2}\hat{e_{\theta}}$) is the result of many charge carriers would this magnetic field have an effect on the charge carriers of the wire?

Using an oversimplified model of a current carrying wire. If the charge carriers DID experience a force due to this field. It would cause them to move helically through the wire.

Now I know ultimately I know this question is slightly redundant since a charge carrying wire isn't nearly as simple as a stream of point charges moving at a constant velocity $\perp$ to $B$.

But still it has been something I've been quite curious about for awhile and I did not find any answers on Google.

Kind Regards.

Best Answer

The electrons inside a current carrying wire do feel magnetic forces, and this causes a radial compressive force on the conductor. That such a force exists follows intuitively from the observation that parallel wires carrying current in the same direction are attracted to each other. If you think of a current-carrying cylindrical wire as infinitely many infinitesimal parallel wires, then they will all attract each other creating a radial pressure gradient.

As given in the answers to Magnetic force in the inside of cylindrical conductor? and Pressure experienced due to magnetic force?, the radial magnetic pressure at a radius $r$ inside a straight cylindrical conductor of external radius $R$ carrying a current $I$ is $$P=\frac{\mu I^2r^2}{8\pi^2 R^4}$$

At normal current densities, the compressive strength of metal wires is easily more than enough to sustain this pressure. A compensating electric field builds up due to the outer metal lattice becoming positively charged as the negative conduction electron move inwards. The situation is different, however, inside gaseous plasmas where magnetic pressure can force the plasma to collapse. This is, for example, how a z-pinch works.

Naively, the electrons will not move helically but radially, since their average motion is along the wire, which is perpendicular to the circular magnetic field. Given that the thermal velocity of the electrons at room temperature is much greater than the drift velocity, however, maybe you are right since charged particles in plasmas do tend to follow magnetic field lines.