Classical Mechanics: Relation between general velocity and general potential function for velocity-dependent potential

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How is the general force derived from the general potential for a velocity-dependent potential $U = U(q_j,\dot{q_j})$?
$$Q_j=-\frac{\partial U}{\partial q_j}+ \frac{\mathrm{d}}{\mathrm{dt}}(\frac{\partial U}{\partial \dot{q_j}}). \tag{1}$$

What I understand

  1. In a conservative vector field, the force could be found through the gradient of the scalar potential, i.e. $F = -\nabla V$.
  2. General force in non-velocity-dependent potentials is given by $Q_j = -\frac{\partial V}{\partial q_j}$, in a similar manner as of that in bullet point 1, where $V$ is a conservative vector field, $Q_j$ is the general force and $q_j$ a general coordinate.

My attempt to derive Eqn. (1)

  1. Recall that the general potential is a function of general coordinate and the general velocity, $U = U(q_j,\dot{q_j})$

  2. Apply $Q_j = -\nabla U$, and get
    $$
    \begin{aligned}
    Q_j &= -\nabla U(q_j,\dot{q_j})\\
    &=-(\frac{\partial}{\partial q_j}+\frac{\partial}{\partial \dot{q_j}})U(q_j,\dot q_j)\\
    &=-\frac{\partial U}{\partial q_j}-\frac{\partial U}{\partial \dot q_j}
    \end{aligned} \tag{2}
    $$

    where the second term on R.H.S. does not match Eqn. (1)

My question

  1. What are the things/concepts that I am missing?
  2. How is Eqn.(1) derived?
  3. How to intuitively/physically understand the second term on R.H.S. in Eqn.(1)?

Best Answer

  • 1 & 2: Eq. (1) is not derived. It is a defining property of a generalized velocity-dependent potential.

    1. The form of eq. (1) mimics the Euler-Lagrange operator, so that we can bring Lagrange equations $$ \frac{d}{dt}\frac{\partial T}{\partial \dot{q}^j}-\frac{\partial T}{\partial q^j}~=~Q_j, \qquad j~\in \{1,\ldots, n\}, \tag{L}$$ in the form of Euler-Lagrange equations $$ \frac{d}{dt}\frac{\partial (T-U)}{\partial \dot{q}^j}-\frac{\partial (T-U)}{\partial q^j}~=~0, \qquad j~\in \{1,\ldots, n\}. \tag{EL}$$