What’s the connection between the concepts of field and $\sigma$-field

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I am learning probability theory now and our probability theory course is built upon the measure theory. In the first class, we talked about the concept of field and $\sigma$-field. One property of $\sigma$-field that we have been introduced is if $\mathcal{A}$ is a $\sigma$-field, it is a field. In my opinion, the field must be a subtype of the field. In other words, if we consider all types of field, a portion of them may be considered as $\sigma$-field. However, in later class when we were briefly introduced with the concept of measure, our teacher tried to give us a general picture of what we have done so far.

He said that $(\Omega, \mathcal{A})$ is a measurable space provided that $\mathcal{A}$ is a $\sigma$-field of subset of $\Omega$. Then he went on saying that when mathematician tries to find the proper class for measurable space they realize only a field would be inadequate. He then went on saying that $\sigma$-field is a larger class compared to a field.

I am very confused at this point as I thought $\sigma$-field must be a smaller class as compared to the field. I am not even sure if these two concepts can be compared using the langue of "large" or "small". I read another post today What are the foundations of probability and how are they dependent upon a σ -field? which gives an answer "No" to the relationship between the $\sigma$-field and a field, which made me more bewildered.

I understand that my understanding of a field is very rudimentary as I am not coming from a mathematical background. I hope my naïve way of understanding of the relationship between a field and $\sigma$-field can reveal the misconceptions I have in mind. In this post, I mainly expect someone to explain to me the relationship between a field and a $\sigma$-field in a broader sense (not that if a class is a $\sigma$-field it must also be a field). For example, why we give so much attention to $\sigma$-field. What are the implications of the difference between the condition "countably infinite union"? (What will happen if we don't make such distinction?)

Best Answer

Indeed all $\sigma$-fields are fields. This was not what was meant by "larger class" by your teacher. Also, the answer "no" by Qiaochu Yuan was saying that $\sigma$-fields are not fields in the sense of algebra; they are indeed fields of sets.

Anyway, a $\sigma$-field "typically" will need to have "more sets" in it than a field would; in particular, you can ask for the minimal $\sigma$-field containing a given field, and typically it will be a proper superset of the field you started with.

Within probability theory you only really care about $\sigma$-fields and can essentially ignore the notion of fields. In real analysis there is a bit more going on because we want to build things like the Lebesgue measure on $\mathbb{R}^n$ "without doing too much work" so we come up with slick tricks of extending the Lebesgue measure restricted to "rather small" subsets of the Lebesgue $\sigma$-algebra (in real analysis the term "$\sigma$-algebra" is considerably more common).

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