Velocity Question height, maximum height

physics

A projectile is fired upward from a height 200 ft, and reaches a maximum height of 400 ft.

My Approach

Using this equation:

$$s(t)=s_0+v_0t+\frac{1}{2}gt^2$$

I plug in my knowns and get this following equation:

$$400=200+v_0t+16t^2$$

I reduce it down and get this equation:

$$200=v_0t+16t^2$$

How could I get the initial velocity? I know from here that this is when t is at the maximum height? Only using position, and velocity equations

Best Answer

If you insist on deriving all from the formulas

\begin{align} v(t) &= v_0 + at \tag 1\\ s(t) &=s_0+v_0t+\frac{1}{2}at^2\tag 2 \end{align}

only, let you will be fulfilled.

(Note: $(2)$ is derived from $(1)$ by integration.)

First, the acceleration is negative, as the Earth attraction works against the movement, so $a = -g,\ $ and $(1)$ and $(2)$ become

\begin{align} v(t) &= v_0 - gt \tag 3\\ s(t) &=s_0+v_0t-\frac{1}{2}gt^2\tag 4 \end{align}

Now, to better understand the situation, substitute in $(3)$ known values $s_0 = 200\ \mathrm {ft}\,$ and $g \approx 32.17\ {\mathrm {ft}\cdot \mathrm s}^{-2},\ $ and (meanwhile) unknown value $v_0 \approx 113.4\ \mathrm{ft}\cdot {\mathrm s}^{-1}\ $ (which we will calculate at the end).

We get this graph - a linear dependency of a speed from time:

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We may see that the speed of the projectile decreases from the speed $v_0 \approx 113.4\ \mathrm{ft}\cdot {\mathrm s}^{-1}\ \ $ (in time $t_0=0)\ $ to zero speed $v_1 = 0\ $ (in time $t_1 \approx 3.5\ \mathrm s)$.

Substituting the same values into $(4)$ we obtain this graph - a quadratic dependency of the position of the projectile from time:

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We may see that the position of the projectile increases from the position $s_0 = 200\ \mathrm{ft}\ \ $ (in time $t_0=0)\ $ to the position $s_1 = 400\ \mathrm{ft}\ \ $ (in time $t_1 \approx 3.5\ \mathrm s)$.

So let $t_1$ is the time in which the projectile reaches its maximum height of $s_1 = s(t_1) \ $ (and we know that $s_1 = 400\ \mathrm{ft}.$) Equations $(3)$ and $(4)$ become

\begin{align} v(t_1) &= v_0 - gt_1 \tag 5\\ s(t_1) &= s_0+v_0t_1-\frac{1}{2}gt_1^2\tag 6 \end{align}

But $\ v(t_1) = 0\ $ and $\ s(t_1) = s_1$:

\begin{align} 0 &= v_0 - gt_1 \tag 7\\ s_1 &= s_0+v_0t_1-\frac{1}{2}gt_1^2\tag 8 \end{align}

From $(7)$ we obtain

$$v_0 = gt_1\tag 9$$

and substituting it into $(8)$ we obtain

$$s_1 =s_0+g{t_1}^2-\frac{1}{2}gt_1^2$$

i. e.

$$s_1 =s_0+\frac{1}{2}gt_1^2 \tag {10}$$

Now it is all known, except $t_1$, so let express it from $(10)$:

$$t_1 = \sqrt{{2(s_1-s_0)\over g}}$$

Substituting it into $(9)$ gives us the result

$$v_0 = gt_1 = g\sqrt{{2(s_1-s_0)\over g}} = \sqrt{{2(s_1-s_0) g}}$$

in particular

$$v_0 = \sqrt{2\times 200 \times 32,17}\ {\mathrm {ft}\over\mathrm m} \approx 113.4 {\text{ft}\over\text{m}}$$