Possible values of r (common ratio) if r is equal to d (common difference)

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The common difference d of an AP is equal to the common ratio r of a GP. I have been told that the sum of the first ten terms of the AP is equal to fifteen times the sum of the first three terms of the GP.

I have tried using the formulas $\frac{10}{2}[2a+9d]$ = $15[\frac{a(1-d^3)}{1-d}]$, however I am unsure how to continue.

Best Answer

You are going to need more information to get a clean answer.

If the AP starts at $a$ and the GP starts at $b,$ then the equation becomes:

$$\frac{10}{2}(2a+9d)=15b(1+d+d^2)$$

Then you get $$15bd^2+(15b-45)d+(15b-10a)=0$$

Or equivalently:

$$bd^2+(b-3)d+(b-2a/3)=0$$

This gives a quadratic formula:

$$d=\frac{(3-b)\pm\sqrt{9 - 6 b + 8 a b/3 - 3 b^2}}{2b}$$ if $b\neq 0.$

If $b=0,$ then $d=\frac{-2a}{9}.$

Given any $b$ and $d,$ we can solve:

$$a=\frac{3}2(bd^2+(b-3)d+b)$$

This shows that there are infinitely many integer trios, $a,b,d,$ specifically, when $b,d$ both even or both odd.


Assuming $a=b,$ you need $b^2+18b- 27\leq 0,$ or $(b+9)^2\leq 108.$ For a $b$ positive integer, there is only one value, $b=1.$ But the value of $d$ in this case is irrational, $d=1\pm 2\sqrt{2/3}.$


If $b=1,$ then $$d=1\pm \sqrt{2a/3}$$

So, for example, when $a=6, b=1,$ you get $d=3,-1.$ Then when $d=3$:

$$6+9+\cdots +33=195,\\1+3+3^3=13,$$ and $13\cdot 15=195.$

When $d=-1,$ $$6+5+\cdots+(-3)=15,\\1+(-1)+1=1.$$


If $b=3$ you want $$d=\pm\sqrt{2a/9-1}$$

You can get any odd integer $d$ from some integer $a,$ specifically, $a=\frac{9(d^2+1)}{2}.$

For $d=5,$ $a=117,$ and:

$$117+122+\cdots+162=1395=93\cdot 15,\\3+15+75=93.$$

This gives another answer for $d=3,$ with $a=45,b=3.$

$$45+48+\dots+72=585=15\cdot 39,\\3+9+27=39$$