[Math] Simplifying two logarithms with different bases
logarithms
I am being asked to simplify:
$(\log_4 7)(\log_7 5)$
How can this be simplified given that the bases are different?
Best Answer
Here's a way that may be the easiest to understand, using the change-of-base formula in its simplest form:
$$
(\log_4 7)(\log_7 5) = \frac{\log_e 7}{\log_e 4} \cdot \frac{\log_e 5}{\log_e 7} = \frac{\log_e 5}{\log_e 4} = \log_4 5.
$$
Here's a way that uses a corollary of the change-of-base formula:
$$
\underbrace{(\log_4 7)(\log_7 5) = (\log_7 7)(\log_4 5)}_\text{a corollary of the change-of-base formula} = 1\cdot\log_4 5.
$$
Here's the corollary:
$$
(\log_A P)(\log_B Q)(\log_C R)(\log_D S)\cdots = (\log_D P)(\log_A Q)(\log_B R)(\log_C S)\cdots
$$
and generally you can permute the subscripts $A,B,C,D,\ldots$ in any way at all while leaving the arguments $P,Q,R,S,\ldots$ where they are, without changing the value of the product.
That follows from the change-of-base-formula, which is actually a special case of it.
Play around with the values. Estimate them. See what happens. For example:
Let's see... $\log_4 (1/15)$.... hmmm.... well, $\log_4(1/16) = -2$... and $\log_4(1/4)=-1$.... so, $\log_4(1/15)$ is between $-2$ and $-1$.... okay, that's pretty good.
How about this one? $\log_3(1/2)$... hmmm..... $\log_3(1/3)=-1$,... and, hey I see it... $\log_3(1)=0$, so $\log_3(1/2)$ is between $-1$ and $0$, so
$$\log_4(1/15) < -1 < \log_3(1/2)
$$
Best Answer
Here's a way that may be the easiest to understand, using the change-of-base formula in its simplest form: $$ (\log_4 7)(\log_7 5) = \frac{\log_e 7}{\log_e 4} \cdot \frac{\log_e 5}{\log_e 7} = \frac{\log_e 5}{\log_e 4} = \log_4 5. $$
Here's a way that uses a corollary of the change-of-base formula: $$ \underbrace{(\log_4 7)(\log_7 5) = (\log_7 7)(\log_4 5)}_\text{a corollary of the change-of-base formula} = 1\cdot\log_4 5. $$
Here's the corollary: $$ (\log_A P)(\log_B Q)(\log_C R)(\log_D S)\cdots = (\log_D P)(\log_A Q)(\log_B R)(\log_C S)\cdots $$ and generally you can permute the subscripts $A,B,C,D,\ldots$ in any way at all while leaving the arguments $P,Q,R,S,\ldots$ where they are, without changing the value of the product.
That follows from the change-of-base-formula, which is actually a special case of it.