Real Analysis – Prove Existence of n with n+1 Zeros on (-1,1)

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Let $f\in C^{\infty}(\mathbb{R},\mathbb{R})$ such that $f(x)=0$ on $\mathbb{R}$\ $(-1,1)$. Prove that there exists $n\in\mathbb{N}$ such that $f^{(n)}$ has at least n+1 zeros on $(-1,1)$

My attempt :

  • Assume $f$ is strictly positive (if not n=0 works). Let $Z(f^{(n)})$ the number of zeros of $f^{(n)}$ on $(-1,1)$. Then we have:
    $$
    \forall n\in\mathbb{N}:\;f^{(n)}(-1)=f^{(n)}(1)=0
    $$
    so that iterating the Rolle theorem to the successive derivatives of f we have
    $$
    \;Z(f^{(k+1)}) \geq Z(f^{(k)}) +1
    $$
    thus, by induction :
    $$
    \forall n\in\mathbb{N}: \;Z(f^{(n+1)}) \geq Z(f^{(n)}) +1
    $$
    Therefore,
    $$
    Z(f^{(n)}) \geq n
    $$
    How can I find an another zero ?

I'm still looking for an another proof which does not use the lemma ..,

Thank you in advance.

Best Answer

I believe Julien's proof is right and is also elegant, although there are a lot of typos in his write up. I'll rewrite it here (as Community Wiki), since there seems to be some doubt about that. Of course, this doesn't answer Julien's request for a different proof, but I see nothing wrong with his proof

I introduce the notation $Z(h)$ for the number of zeroes of $h$ on $(-1,1)$.

Let $f$ be as stated. If $f$ vanishes on $(-1,1)$ we are done so, without loss of generality, let $f(x)$ be positive on $(-1,1)$.

For any positive integer $k$, define $$ g:=x\to \frac{f(x)}{(1-x^2)^k} \mbox{ for } |x|<1, \mbox{ and } 0 \mbox{ otherwise} $$ L'Hospital's rule shows that $g$ is in $C^\infty(\mathbb{R},\mathbb{R})$, and $g$ is identically zero outside $(-1,1)$.

Choose $k$ such that $$ 0 = f(-1) \ < \ f\left(-\frac{1}{2}\right) (1-\frac14)^{-k} \ >\ f(0)\ < \ f\left(\frac{1}{2}\right) (1-\frac14)^{-k} \ > \ f(1) = 0. $$ So $$ 0 = g(-1) \ < \ g(-1/2) \ >\ g(0)\ <\ g(1/2)\ >\ g(1) = 0.$$

Then $g'$ must be positive somewhere on $(-1,-1/2)$, negative somewhere on $(-1/2,0)$, positive somewhere on $(0,1/2)$ and negative somewhere on $(1/2,1)$. Thus $Z(g^{(1)}) \geq 3$, and the result holds for $g$ (instead of $f$), with $n=1$.

We will show that $Z(f^{(2k+1)}) \geq 2k+3$.

Lemma Let $p(x)$ be identically $0$ outside $(-1,1)$ and let $a$ be a real number not in $(-1,1)$. Set $q(x) = p(x) (x-a)$. Then $Z(q^{(n+1)}(x)) \geq Z(p^{(n)}(x))+1$.

Proof Let the zeroes of $p^{(n)}$ be $-1 < r_1 < r_2 < \cdots < r_m < 1$ and set $r_0=-1$ and $r_{m+1}=1$. Then $(x-a)^{n+1} p^{(n)}(x)$ vanishes at all the $r_i$, so by Rolle's theorem, $Z(\frac{d}{dx} ( (x-a)^{n+1} p^{(n)}(x) )) \geq m+1$. But $\frac{d}{dx} ( (x-a)^{n+1} p^{(n)}(x) ) = (x-a)^n q^{(n+1)}$, and $(x-a)^{n}$ doesn't vanish on $[-1,1]$, so $Z(q^{(n+1)}) \geq m+1$ as desired. $\square$

Basically, the lemma says that throwing in a non vanishing linear factor doesn't make the Rolle's theorem bound worse.

Now set $h_0 = g$, $h_1 = (1-x) h_0$, $h_2 = (1+x) h_1$, $h_3 = (1-x) h_2$, $h_4 = (1+x) h_3$ etcetera, until $h_{2k} = (1-x^2)^k h_0 = f$. Applying the lemma repeatedly gives $$Z(f^{(2k+1)}) \geq Z(h_{2k-1}^{(2k)} )+1 \geq Z(h_{2k-2}^{2k-1})+2 \geq \cdots \geq Z(h_0^{(1)}) + 2k \geq 3+2k$$ as desired.

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