[Math] Point normal equation of plane

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Im doing an homeassignment in linear algebra!
This is the question I'm having problems with!

The plane M contains two lines;

l1 : (x, y, z) = t(2, −1, 0), t ∈ R,

l2 : (x, y, z) = t(0, 1, 2), t ∈ R.

Determine a point-normal equation of the plane M and compute the acute angle between M and the line;

l3 : (x, y, z) = t(2, 1, 1), t ∈ R. (ON-system assumed.)

I have taken the crossproduct of l1 and l2 and got that computed to be: (-2, -4, 2) , which in my understanding is n (the normal of the plane?) But them I am stuck.I can't understand if the plane contains fully the two lines, or only points from the lines?? From what i've learned two lines are too much information for a plane in 3-dim? Three points or one line and one point is enough.?? Also why is the lines only described in parametric (x, y, x) = t(0,1,2). What does the parameter exactly mean, is it a direction vector? usually is lines not described with: {x-3 = t, y+6 = 3t, z+5 = 2t}…I am probably not understanding the concept completely, I have been trying to do this question for hours now and I really need some help to get me going.
I also know that for shortest distance I want the angle of line and plane to be pi/2, since then cos(theta) will be 0. I can probably also use this somehow??
Grateful if I could get some concrete tips and tricks how to do this and what it all really means…

From where do I get the point p0 and p, are they from the lines in the plane or from the line i will compute the acute angle of l-M??

Have I calculated n (normal) to plane correctly??

Why are the lines only described in parameter t??

Best Answer

You're right that it's generally impossible to find a plane that contains two given lines. In fact, it's possible only if the two given lines intersect. Fortunately, the two lines $l_1$ and $l_2$ in your problem do intersect; in fact, they intersect at the origin $(0,0,0)$.

To see this, look at the equations. The line $l_1$ has equation $(x,y,z) = t(2,-1,0)$. This says that every point $(x,y,z)$ on the line is some multiple ($t$) of the vector $(2,-1,0)$. In particular, when $t=0$, you get $(x,y,z) = (0,0,0)$. So, the line passes through the origin and has direction $(2,-1,0)$.

If we let $\mathbf{p}_0 = (0,0,0)$, then $l_1$ has equation $$ (x,y,z) = \mathbf{p}_0 +t(2,-1,0) = (0+2t, 0-t, 0) $$ which might be the kind of line equation you were expecting.

Similarly, the line $l_2$ passes through the origin and has direction $(0,1,2)$.

The plane containing $l_1$ and $l_2$ has normal vector $\mathbf{n} = (-2, -4,2)$, which you correctly computed as a cross product, and it also passes through the origin. So its equation is $(x,y,z).\mathbf{n} = 0$, i.e. $-2x-4y+2z=0$. The equation $x +2y -z =0$ is simpler, and gives you the same plane.

To get the angle between line $l_3$ and the plane, we can get the angle between the line and the plane normal, and then subtract from 90 degrees.

The line $l_3$ is in the direction of the vector $\mathbf{v} = (2,1,1)$, and the plane normal is $\mathbf{n} = (-2, -4,2)$. The angle $\theta$ between these two vectors is given by $$ \cos\theta = \frac {\mathbf{v} \cdot \mathbf{n}} {|\mathbf{v}| \cdot |\mathbf{n}|} = \frac {(2)(-2) + (1)(-4)+(1)(2)} {\sqrt{2^2 + 1^2 + 1^2}\sqrt{(-2)^2 + (-4)^2 + 2^2}} = \frac{-6}{12} $$ Then the angle between the plane and $l_3$ is $90- \theta$.

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