[Math] Calculating the distance from a point on an ellipse and focal points

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An ellipse has the equation $$\frac{(x-\tfrac{1}{3})^2}{\tfrac{4}{9}}+\frac{y^2}{\tfrac{1}{3}}=1\;,$$

with focal points $(0,0)$ and $(2/3,0)$.

If a point P on the ellipse has a distance $1/2$
from the origin, what is its distance from the other focus? I initially thought it was to simply use $d_1+d_2=2a$ but found out this was wrong. My second attempt was to try and work out coordinates for P where I got $(0,1/2)$
and $(0,−1/2)$
therefore giving a distance of $5/6$ from the other focus. However I do not think this is right as I got complex solutions along the way which I just ignored.. wondered if there was another way?

Best Answer

I'm assuming there is some educational reason why you're not supposed to use the formula $d_1+d_2=2a$. That formula gives the correct result for good reasons.

The method in which you solve two simultaneous quadratic equations is legitimate; after eliminating $y$, we can show that $x(x-2)=0$. If we allow complex solutions, this leads to four solutions; but since the points on the ellipse have real coordinates, it is perfectly legitimate to discard the complex solutions. The fact that $x$ and $y$ must be real is simply a constraint on the solution space; you can even add it to your system of equations as follows: \begin{gather} \tfrac94(x-x_0)^2 + 3y^2 = 1,\\ x^2 + y^2 = 1,\\ \Im (x) = 0,\\ \Im (y) = 0. \end{gather} The last two equations simply say that $x$ and $y$ have zero imaginary parts.


Another technique is to convert the equation of the ellipse to polar coordinates. The ellipse equation you were given was in the general form $$ \frac{(x-x_0)^2}{a^2}+\frac{(y-y_0)^2}{b^2}=1 $$ for positive $a$ and $b$, where in this particular case $x_0=\frac13$, $y_0=0$, $a=\frac23$, and $b=\frac{1}{\sqrt3}$. Since $\frac23 > \frac{1}{\sqrt3}$, the length of the semi-major axis is $a$. In polar coordinates, the general equation for an ellipse with semi-major axis $a$, semi-minor axis $b$, one focus at $(0,0)$, and the other focus on the positive $x$-axis, like this ellipse, is $$ r = \frac{a(1 - e^2)}{1 - e\cos\theta} $$ where $e = \sqrt{1 - \left(\frac ba\right)^2}$. Plugging in $a=\frac23$ and $b=\frac{1}{\sqrt3}$, we find that $e = \sqrt{1 - \frac34} = \frac12$, so the equation of this particular ellipse comes out to $$ r = \frac{\frac23\left(1 - \left(\frac12\right)^2\right)} {1 - \frac12\cos\theta} = \frac{1}{2 - \cos\theta}. $$ But since $r$ in this equation is simply the distance from $(0,0)$ to a point on the ellipse at angle $\theta$ counterclockwise from the positive $x$-axis, and the desired point $P$ is at distance $\frac12$ from $(0,0)$, the polar coordinates of $P$ must satisfy $$ \frac12 = \frac{1}{2 - \cos\theta}, $$ from which we can deduce that $\cos\theta = 0$, and therefore $\sin\theta = \pm 1$. Converting the polar coordinates back into $x,y$ coordinates gives us \begin{align} x &= r \cos\theta = 0,\\ y &= r \sin\theta = \pm\frac12. \end{align} Therefore $P = \left(0,\frac12\right)$ or $P = \left(0,-\frac12\right)$.