[Math] (A twist in a classical question) Sum and product of two irrational numbers is rational

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So I know that it is possible for the sums and products of irrational numbers to be rational. But, the only instances I know of that happening is when a certain combination of additive or multiplicative inverses of the irrational numbers in question are used.

My question is, given an irrational number $p$, can you multiply or add an irrational number $q$ to it so that their sum/product is a rational number given that $q$ cannot be written as any combination involving either $-p$ or $p^{-1}$?

Best Answer

If $p+q = n/m$ then $q = n/m - p$ which is "a combination" involving $-p$. Same is true for the product.