Particle Speed – Deriving Particle’s Speed from Its Distance Function

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Given the position of a particle, for example, $<4t, 5t^2>,$ you are asked to find the speed at $t = 2.$ The correct answer is to find the particle's velocity (the derivative of its position) then take the magnitude.

Why is it incorrect to find the particle's distance $(\sqrt{16t^2 + 25t^4})$ then find the derivative of that at $t=2?$

I ask this because in a previous problem, given a velocity vector, to find the distance traveled by an object, they first found its speed then took the integral, instead of finding its position (the integral of velocity) then taking the magnitude.

To me, the two seem like they are asking for the reverse action, but I do not understand why they have different approaches when solving.

Best Answer

in a previous problem, given a velocity vector, to find the distance traveled by an object, they first found its speed then took the integral,

That's because distance travelled during $\boldsymbol{[t_1,t_2]}$ = time elapsed $\times$ average speed = $\color\red{\displaystyle\int_{t_1}^{t_2}|\boldsymbol v|\,\mathrm dt}.$

instead of finding its position (the integral of velocity) then taking the magnitude.

On the other hand, $\displaystyle\int_{t_1}^{t_2}\boldsymbol v\,\mathrm dt$ is the displacement from $\boldsymbol{t_1}$ to $\boldsymbol{t_2}$, so $\color\red{\left|\displaystyle\int_{t_1}^{t_2}\boldsymbol v\,\mathrm dt\right|}$ is the (shortest) distance between $\boldsymbol{t_1}$ and $\boldsymbol{t_2}.$ Observe that:

  • distance travelled during $[t_1,t_2] \ge$ distance between $t_1$ and $t_2.$

Given the position of a particle, for example, $<4t, 5t^2>,$ you are asked to find the speed at $t = 2.$ The correct answer is to find the particle's velocity (the derivative of its position) then take the magnitude.

Yes: speed = $\color\red{\left|\dfrac{\mathrm d\boldsymbol r}{\mathrm dt}\right|}.$

Why is it incorrect to find the particle's distance $(\sqrt{16t^2 + 25t^4})$ then find the derivative of that at $t=2?$

$|\boldsymbol r|=\sqrt{16t^2 + 25t^4}$ is the (shortest) distance to the reference point, so its derivative $\color\red{\dfrac{\mathrm d|\boldsymbol r|}{\mathrm dt}}$ is the rate of change of distance to the reference point. (The particle starts at the reference point iff $\boldsymbol r(t{=}0)=\boldsymbol 0.$) Discarding $\boldsymbol r$ after taking $|\boldsymbol r|$ loses information: for example, given circular motion about the reference point $3$ units away and no additional information, $\left|\dfrac{\mathrm d\boldsymbol r}{\mathrm dt}\right|$ cannot be determined but we know that $\dfrac{\mathrm d|\boldsymbol r|}{\mathrm dt}=0\ne\left|\dfrac{\mathrm d\boldsymbol r}{\mathrm dt}\right|.$

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