[Tex/LaTex] beamer to show nested-subitem when all (non-nested) items covered

beameritemizeoverlaystransparency

I am trying to get an alternating highlighting effect between \itemize items and subitems (which are just nested itemize items), but there is an issue in that when all of the non-nested items are hidden the nested subitem fails to show. The desired effect is that:

Overlay #1: the non-nested items will be initially shown in full opacity while the nested subitem will be initially shown as transparent
Overlay #2: the non-nested items are hidden as transparent items, while the nested sub-item is shown in full opacity
Overlay #3: all items are shown in full opacity

A minimal working example to reproduce the issue (using code that reflects what I'm trying to achieve):

\documentclass{beamer}
\begin{document}
\setbeamercovered{transparent}
\begin{frame}
    \begin{itemize}
        \item<1,3>{outside}
        \begin{itemize}
            \item<2->{inside}
        \end{itemize}
        \item<1,3>{outside}
    \end{itemize}
\end{frame}
\end{document}

Note that the issue seems to be specifically at the last non-nested item before the nested itemize environment. I.e., the issue above is that the sub-item fails perform the overlay spec of appearing at slide #2, but this spec works in the example below when the non-nested item above it is also displayed during slide #2 (instead of above where it is hidden during slide #2):

\documentclass{beamer}
\begin{document}
\setbeamercovered{transparent}
\begin{frame}
    \begin{itemize}
        \item<1->{outside}  % <---- this is the difference from above
        \begin{itemize}
            \item<2->{inside}
        \end{itemize}
        \item<1,3>{outside}
    \end{itemize}
\end{frame}
\end{document}

Best Answer

Include \visible with your \items

\documentclass{beamer}
\begin{document}
\setbeamercovered{transparent}
\begin{frame}
    \begin{itemize}
        \item\visible<1,3>{outside}
        \begin{itemize}
            \item\visible<2->{inside}
        \end{itemize}
        \item\visible<1,3>{outside}
    \end{itemize}
\end{frame}
\end{document}

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[Tex/LaTex] Take 2: How do automatic overlay specifications work in Beamer (in a nested situation)

It's logic, captain, but not as we know it.

The crucial fact to remember is that every time beamer sees a + then beamerpauses is incremented. Here's what I see, with the value of beamerpauses (in italics) evaluated at lots of occasions. First, the actual code I ran (beamerpauses coloured to make it stand out).

{\color{green}\thebeamerpauses}
\only<1-+(3)>{\alert<-+>{foo} {\color{green}\thebeamerpauses} \alert<-+>{bar}}
{\color{green}\thebeamerpauses}
\only<+>{a}\only<+>{b}\only<+>{c}\only<+>{d}\only<+>{e}
{\color{green}\thebeamerpauses}
\only<1>{1}\only<2>{2}\only<3>{3}\only<4>{4}\only<5>{5}\only<6>{6}
{\color{green}\thebeamerpauses}

Now, what I saw (asciified), plus my interpretation of what's going on, both as to what the code expands to (in terms of what all the overlay specifications become) and an "English translation". (Disclaimer: this is all from observed behaviour rather than looking under the bonnet or hood.)

1 foo 3 bar 4 9 1 9
```
\only<1-4>{\alert<-2>{foo} \alert<-3>{bar}}
\only<4>{a}\only<5>{b}\only<6>{c}\only<7>{d}\only<8>{e}
\only<1>{1}\only<2>{2}\only<3>{3}\only<4>{4}\only<5>{5}\only<6>{6}
```
The +s in the \only and \alert mean that after "foo", we've incremented twice. The \alert for "bar" increments again. Each of the \onlys for "a" &c increments again, getting up to 9 by the end of that line.

1 foo 3 bar 4 9 2 9

\only<1-4>{\alert<-2>{foo} \alert<-3>{bar}}
\only<4>{a}\only<5>{b}\only<6>{c}\only<7>{d}\only<8>{e}
\only<1>{1}\only<2>{2}\only<3>{3}\only<4>{4}\only<5>{5}\only<6>{6}

Same again.

1 foo 3 bar 4 9 3 9

\only<1-4>{\alert<-2>{foo} \alert<-3>{bar}}
\only<4>{a}\only<5>{b}\only<6>{c}\only<7>{d}\only<8>{e}
\only<1>{1}\only<2>{2}\only<3>{3}\only<4>{4}\only<5>{5}\only<6>{6}

The -+ in the foo-alert is expanded to -2 so we lose the alert on foo here.

1 foo 3 bar 4 a 9 4 9

\only<1-4>{\alert<-2>{foo} \alert<-3>{bar}}
\only<4>{a}\only<5>{b}\only<6>{c}\only<7>{d}\only<8>{e}
\only<1>{1}\only<2>{2}\only<3>{3}\only<4>{4}\only<5>{5}\only<6>{6}

This now happens for bar. Finally, we reach the slide where the first letter appears since the + in \only<+>{a} expands to 4.

1 2 d 7 5 7
```
\only<1-4>{\alert<-2>{foo} \alert<-3>{bar}}
\only<2>{a}\only<3>{b}\only<4>{c}\only<5>{d}\only<6>{e}
\only<1>{1}\only<2>{2}\only<3>{3}\only<4>{4}\only<5>{5}\only<6>{6}
```
This is where the interesting stuff happens. The initial \only<1-+(3)>{...} is expanded to \only<1-4>{...}. This means that everything inside the braces now completely disappears. This includes the two +s. So all the \only<+>{a}s and so forth now think that they appear on slides two earlier than they used to.

1 2 e 7 6 7

\only<1-4>{\alert<-2>{foo} \alert<-3>{bar}}
\only<2>{a}\only<3>{b}\only<4>{c}\only<5>{d}\only<6>{e}
\only<1>{1}\only<2>{2}\only<3>{3}\only<4>{4}\only<5>{5}\only<6>{6}

Same again.

So, in summary, the key to understanding this example is to remember that \only throws away its argument on slides where it isn't meant to be. This is extremely useful in making quite complicated stuff happen on different slides.

As for your last question: not that I know of. I once needed one, couldn't find one, and so defined one. It was a crude definition, involving a wrapper around the frametitle command so that I could add some code on every slide to increment the slide counter.

Regarding the update, I think that there are two issues here with regard to the two strange lines. The first is the + issue. I have to say that I find your assertion that it should "just work" slightly disingenuous. You have already specified an exact overlay specification (in the \alt<1-2>) so there's already something that you've had to compute by hand. There are many other ways to achieve what you want with that particular example (but I suspect that it is over simplified and that what you really want will probably be much more complicated!). Possibly the most relevant is to use the onlyenv environment because that does typeset its contents (and then throw them away). So this works:

\begin{frame}
\begin{onlyenv}<1-2>
\begin{itemize}[<+->]
\item a
\item b
\end{itemize}
\end{onlyenv}
\begin{itemize}[<+->]
\item A
\item B
\item C
\item D
\end{itemize}
\end{frame}

The second issue is actually something different, I think, and it is something that I've asked about before. Somehow, getting the beamerpauses right after an automatically unveiled list is a bit complicated. I have a command \itpause for after a list which subtracts one from beamerpauses and then does \pause - that's the simplest way I've found of getting the following to Just Work:

\begin{frame}
\begin{itemize}[<+->]
\item First item
\item Second item
\end{itemize}
\itpause
On the \alert{third} frame
\end{frame}

With \pause there, the last line appears on the fourth frame, with nothing then it appears on the second frame. I would class this as a bug; and it seems to be something to do with a difference in beamerpauses inside and outside such a list environment. To see this, compare the different behaviour of \alert<.>{} inside and outside:

\begin{frame}
\alert<.>{hello}
\begin{itemize}[<+->]
\item A \alert<.>{hello}
\item B
\item C
\item D
\end{itemize}
\alert<.>{hello}
\end{frame}

[Tex/LaTex] Change Beamer frame background between slides in same itemize

I think what you want is not possible. Take a look at How does beamer build the frame? and will see that background canvas and background are constructed before anything else and the frame contents is the last piece, after titles and sidebars. Therefore even trying to supply a false background with TiKZ overlay and remember picture this background will cover any previous layer.

Next code shows a manual solution built playing with \visible and \invisible. You'll need to build as much as frames as items and if your slides are numbered, you'll need to find how to adjust them.

\documentclass{beamer}

\usepackage{mwe}

\begin{document}
\usebackgroundtemplate{\includegraphics[width=\paperwidth,height=\paperheight]{example-image-a}}
\begin{frame}{Promotion}
\begin{itemize}
\item\visible<1>{Identifying the target audience}
\item\invisible<1>{Understanding the target audience}
\item \invisible<1>{Identifying partners}
\end{itemize}
Some text
\end{frame}

\usebackgroundtemplate{\includegraphics[width=\paperwidth,height=\paperheight]{example-image-b}}
\begin{frame}{Promotion}
\begin{itemize}
\item\visible<1>{Identifying the target audience}
\item\visible<1>{Understanding the target audience}
\item \invisible<1>{Identifying partners}
\end{itemize}
Some text
\end{frame}

\usebackgroundtemplate{\includegraphics[width=\paperwidth,height=\paperheight]{example-image-c}}
\begin{frame}{Promotion}
\begin{itemize}
\item\visible<1>{Identifying the target audience}
\item\visible<1>{Understanding the target audience}
\item\visible<1>{Identifying partners}
\end{itemize}
Some text
\end{frame}

\end{document}

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